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The Fans Speak Out.(brief notes on baseball)

Baseball Digest

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I read with great interest in the January issue an explanation from Jim Becker on his version of the origin of Leo Durocher's famous quote, "Nice guys finish last."

With due respect to Jim Becker, I must explain that the quote actually was recorded by veteran columnist Frank Graham on the weekend of July 4th, 1946.

Graham of the New York Journal-American and Lou Effrat of the New York Times were in the Dodger dugout at the Polo Grounds before the game, and they were talking about Eddie Stanky whom Leo described as a scrappy, tough guy.

To emphasize his point, Durocher pointed across the field to Mel Ott, manager of the Giants. "Take a look at number four over there," Durocher said of Ott. "A nicer guy never drew a breath, but where is he? In last place. Nice guys finish last."

That quote was duly recorded by Graham who had a photographic memory. In the Times, Effrat quoted Durocher as saying, "Nice guys finish eighth." That's the way it was at the Times.

Jack Lang, Former Secretary Baseball Writers Association of America Fort Salonga, N.Y.

Last year, a friend of mine showed me an umpire's clicker that would record five balls and four strikes. He asked me if I knew when the rule was changed to four balls and three strikes.

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