Crain's Cleveland Business articles from November 2004

Crain's Cleveland Business archives from November 2004

Dread ahead on Main Street; Chagrin Falls retailers fear rehab project to bring sales slides.
November 1, 2004... Byline: HENRY GOMEZ Delays in the final phase of a $3.9 million downtown improvement project in Chagrin Falls have stirred the anxiety of merchants in a village already coping and competing with modern Main Street replicas nearby. ...

Letters.(Letter to the Editor)
November 1, 2004... Growth tools needed to help new biz * I read with interest Jeff Stacklin's Oct. 18 Commentary on JumpStart Inc.'s approach to growing new business in their service area. As a local citizen and a member of the economic development...

What's New.
November 1, 2004... COMPANY: Dengensha America Corp., Bedford PRODUCT: S-NDX Advanced Pedestal Welder The product is equipped with an advanced weld control and provides manufacturers that have welding operations with a machine that can perform manual spot...

Correction.(Correction Notice)
November 1, 2004... A photo in the Luxury Vehicle Guide on page 27 of the Oct. 25 issue displayed the wrong model for the Mercedes-Benz SLK350.

National labor board decision could be blow to local unions.
November 1, 2004... Byline: MAYA R. PAYNE The outcome of a National Labor Relations Board review of the way some unions form could be brutal on an already dwindling unionized work force locally. At issue are neutrality and "card-check'' agreements, which...

Office condo complex rising in Parma.(condominium)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD Phil Londrico, best known as a Christmas tree wholesaler, and realty developer Bill Consolo are planting a $10 million office condominium complex in Parma. Dubbed "Rockside Park Place Condominiums,'' the...

On The Job.(Biography)
November 1, 2004... Byline: JULIE POST David Weiner Partner Squire, Sanders & Dempsey LLP David Weiner thinks it's up to lawyers to provide all citizens with equal access to justice. After all, if they don't do it, who will? "We are...

Revealing a tricky politician; Lawyer pieces together great-grandfather's political and magical past.
November 1, 2004... Byline: SHARON N. SCHNALL When trial attorney James D. Robenalt's mother died in 1990, he knew just a fraction of the powerful political life and colorful magical exploits of his great-grandfather William Durbin - known in politics as...

Going Places.(People)
November 1, 2004... Job Changes Financial Services BROWN GIBBONS LANG & CO.: Kevin H. Sargent to vice president. CARD, PALMER, SIBBISON & CO.: Melissa A. Bish to staff accountant. CROWE CHIZEK AND CO.: Mike Varney to senior engagement manager;...

Late News.
November 1, 2004... CRITICS EYE WHY UTILITY SHY ABOUT AUCTION FirstEnergy Corp.'s decision not to participate in the December electricity auction to find lower-priced power for customers in Northeast Ohio was a hot topic at an industry conference last week....

Reporters' Notebook; Behind the news with Crain's writers.(The Insider)
November 1, 2004... Next time, a reference check may be in order * Former Cleveland finance director Kelly Clark is in hot water again. Now finance director of the city of Macon, Ga., Ms. Kelly has been accused by Bibb County District Attorney Howard...

Glencairn Forest to preserve parklike views of Furnace Run.(Real Estate)
November 1, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD The forest is the feature as Jim Biggar, CEO of Glencairn Corp., discusses the next phase of Glencairn Forest, his family's big residential development in Richfield Township. "These are the premium lots,'' Mr....

Ride on.(Opinion)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Several weeks ago, we opined that the Euclid Corridor transit project could yield its greatest benefit not at the two ends of the planned Silver Line, but in the space between Public Square and University Circle. The MidTown Cleveland economic...

Short Takes.(Briefs)
November 1, 2004... * MAKING HISTORY: The Commercial Law League of America, based in Chicago, recently elected Mary K. Whitmer, an attorney with Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP of Cleveland, as president - the organization's first female president. "During my...

The Big Issue.(Opinion)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Do you expect to know on election night who won the presidential election? Stephanie Braman Lakewood No. I think they're going to want to make sure everything is accurate with everything that happened in Florida last time. ...

The Week in Quotes.(News)
November 1, 2004... "A young generation of developers in the area is bringing back the excitement. We need developers to redo older buildingsto keep the business district strong.'' - Tom Sudow, executive director, Beachwood Chamber of Commerce, in "Developers...

Greater Ohio pushing state for 'smart growth'.(News)
November 1, 2004... Byline: JAY MILLER A campaign is on to make Ohio smarter - at least smarter, in a new group's opinion, about the way the state uses the 44,000 square miles of land and water within its borders. With financial backing from community...

Need for speed; Firms embracing electronic gadgets to quicken communication.(Special Report)
November 1, 2004... Byline: JUDY STRINGER This is not your father's law firm. Customer demand is fueling an increase in information technology at law firms. As a result, many local law offices are wired to the hilt with high-speed Internet connections and...

Graystone hires Colliers as leasing rep.(Real Estate)(leasing representative)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Graystone Properties Inc., the Cleveland-based owner of five industrial complexes totaling 2.5 million square feet between East 34th and East 39th streets near downtown Cleveland, has retained Colliers International as its exclusive leasing...

Waiting on the Blues; Neighborhood joints sing praises of HOB's long-awaited arrival.(House of Blues)
November 1, 2004... Byline: HENRY GOMEZ When Vivo, an upscale Chicago restaurant, went shopping for a second location, Cleveland topped its list for one reason: the House of Blues concert club, which is soon to open at East Fourth Street and Euclid Avenue....

New CEO to round out changes at Chagrin Falls' Park Place Int'l.(Technology)(Chief Executive Officers)(Park Place International)
November 1, 2004... Byline: TOM JACKSON Changes continue at Park Place International, a company in Chagrin Falls that plans to hire a new CEO early next year as it completes its transformation into a computer service business from a supplier of computer...

Asbestos legislation causing stir; Opponents argue Ohio law's retroactive nature is unconstitutional.(Special Report)
November 1, 2004... Byline: CHRISSY KADLECK Ohio's landmark asbestos legislation implemented to curb tens of thousands of injury lawsuits is under fire by opponents who say the statute is unconstitutional. In effect since Sept. 2, the new law requires...

Inner-ring suburbs council to test power of group buying.(News)
November 1, 2004... Byline: JAY MILLER A council created by Cleveland's inner-ring suburbs thinks group buying might be a way to get some of the benefits of regionalization before any real merging happens. The FSC Development Council is readying a pilot...

The Week: October 25 - 31.(The Insider)
November 1, 2004... The big story: International Steel Group Inc. (NYSE: ISG), a voracious acquirer of steel companies for the last couple years, itself is being bought in a deal that will create the largest steel company in the world. Privately owned Dutch...

Developers join to buy Leaseway building.
November 1, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD Two of Northeast Ohio's young-gun development companies are joining forces to buy the former Leaseway corporate headquarters in Beachwood and have landed fast-growing web site development and IT consulting firm Brulant...

CSU law school receives greatest gift.(Opinion)(Cleveland State University)
November 1, 2004... Byline: Brian Tucker The impact of Bart Wolstein on Northeast Ohio continues, months after he passed away in an untimely fashion last May. This time the beneficiary is his old law school at Cleveland State University. The developer's...

ISG deal gives smaller steel users hope for stability; Reduction of pricing volatility trumps loss of bargaining power.(News)(International Steel Group Inc.)
November 1, 2004... Byline: DAVID PRIZINSKY Small and midsize steel consumers expect the emergence of Mittal Steel Co., the global giant being created through a European merger and the acquisition of Richfield-based International Steel Group Inc., somewhat...

Synapse given FDA green light for breathing device tests for ALS.(Technology)(Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis)(Food and Drug Administration)(Synapse Biomedical Inc.)
November 1, 2004... Byline: SHANNON PETTYPIECE Oberlin medical device maker Synapse Biomedical Inc. has received Food and Drug Administration approval to begin testing its electronic breathing device on patients with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, commonly...

U-Store-It stays local for $34M deal; Company agrees to purchase most of Mentor's Liberty Self-Stor biz.
November 1, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD Newly public U-Store-It Realty Trust's buying binge in the miniwarehouse business promises to provide bottom-fishing bank and realty investor Richard Osborne and his partners with an exit from most of the self-storage...

It worked.(Opinion)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Less than three years ago, a grand experiment was begun from the rubble of a failed steelmaker in Cleveland. Freed of weighty pension liabilities and a burdensome labor contract, an investor group that bought many of the assets of LTV Steel set...

On the cover.(News)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... Key Tower's 57-story steel skeleton surpassed the height of the Terminal Tower's flagpole on Nov. 26, 1990, making it Ohio's tallest building and the tallest building between New York and Chicago, at 947 feet tall. CAPTION(S): photo

Coming next week.(News)(Brief Article)
November 1, 2004... MetroHealth's new Broadway Health Center, run by Dr. Harry Walker (at right), has been so well-received that the county hospital plans to open a similar center in Cleveland near the former St. Luke's hospital. The centers represent an effort to...

Dire need.(Opinion)
November 8, 2004... The resounding rejection by voters of a desperately needed operating levy for the Cleveland Municipal Schools leaves officials with no good options for alleviating the financial pressures that already have forced the district to cut hundreds of...

Letters.(Letter to the Editor)
November 8, 2004... Chagrin Falls story emphasizes fear, lacks facts * I read with interest your Nov. 1, page 3 story relative to the recently awarded downtown improvement project in the village of Chagrin Falls. The story is not representative of the...

What's New.(The Insider)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... COMPANY: Lamson & Sessions, Carlon Brand; Beachwood PRODUCT: Drop-In Floorbox The residential Floorbox kit comes with the base, solid brass cover, hole saw and three mounting plates - wired, low-voltage and blank. The Floorbox can be...

Reporters' Notebook; Behind the news with Crain's writers.(The Insider)
November 8, 2004... Don't know nano? Now you can look it up * For those looking to impress friends with their nano knowledge at the next cocktail party, never fear, the nanopedia is here. Financed by a $100,000 grant from the National Science Foundation,...

The Big Issue.(Opinion)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Does the high tax burden in Northeast Ohio make it too difficult to pass school levies? Jim Canaris Parma If the money were used properly, we wouldn't have so much trouble passing levies. People don't trust the money's being...

New ImageWorks office to serve the Southeast.(Marketing)
November 8, 2004... Byline: HENRY GOMEZ Streetsboro's Corporate ImageWorks/Vanguard, the promotional product marketer best known for its work with the Cleveland Cavaliers, continues to ride the plastic jersey-tails of LeBron James to company growth. ...

What's Online.(News)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Headlines from: www.neohio.CrainTech.com Book `em * New York City's huge public library system picked OverDrive Inc. in Valley View to offer its cardholders 3,000 titles available for download via the Internet. At it again *...

Cooper Tire unit will lay off 72 at city plant it plans to shutter.(News)
November 8, 2004... Byline: DAVID BENNETT Cooper Tire & Rubber Co. of Findlay plans to lay off 72 workers when it shutters its Cleveland plant as part of its plan to sell its automotive parts business. According to a notice filed Oct. 27 under the federal...

IBM tech gives Clinic ability to offer more personalized treatment.(International Business Machines Corp.)
November 8, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND Walk into the Cleveland Clinic with an illness and physicians there almost instantly can compare your condition with thousands of others who have had the same problem - right down to seeing if you have the same...

City production line in works for Dunkin' Donuts.
November 8, 2004... Byline: JAY MILLER The Dunkin' Donuts folks are preparing to support their planned expansion in Northeast Ohio with a proposed baking and distribution operation in the city of Cleveland. The central production line would provide cake...

Companies have options beyond broad noncompete covenants.(Small Business)
November 8, 2004... Byline: David Wallace It can happen to any company, large or small. Talented employees leave to pursue entrepreneurial opportunities or work for competitors - complete with a wealth of knowledge about their former employers' business...

Manufacturing startup buying Euclid plant.(News)(Trust Manufacturing LLC)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Byline: JAY MILLER The former owner of Nova Machine Products Corp. is buying a vacant plant in Euclid to do contract manufacturing of parts for original equipment makers. Paul Novosel of Bratenahl said his new company, Trust...

Some holiday gifts subject to taxes.(Small Business)
November 8, 2004... Byline: Carl Grassi For many businesses, it's a tradition to reward employees with gifts around the holidays. Despite the fact that most employees and employers regard these small items as gifts, the IRS recently issued technical advice...

It's amore; George Chamoun's 4-year-old pizza biz sprouts from roots of consistency.(Small Business)
November 8, 2004... Byline: MARY ANN JANNAZO Americans love pizza. Pizza by the slice, by the yard, thick crust, thin crust, pepperoni, pineapple, whole wheat, no wheat. Americans spend $32 billion per year to buy 3 billion pizzas, industry estimates show. ...

Grand Openings.(Small Business)
November 8, 2004... Start to Finish Fitness 3459 Fairmount Blvd. Cleveland Heights 44118 www.starttofinishfitness.com Offers a combination of professional fitness training, physical therapy and one-on-one relationships with trainers to sustain wellness....

New cash lets Ayalogic ready intercom product for sale.(Technology)
November 8, 2004... Byline: SHANNON PETTYPIECE Akron telecommunications software developer Ayalogic has raised $2 million from local investors, which will enable the company to take its product to market early next year. The Cleveland office of...

The Week: November 1 - 7.(The Insider)
November 8, 2004... Welcome back: OMX is back. Almost one year after OfficeMax Inc. was bought for $1.3 billion by Idaho-based Boise Cascade Corp., the Shaker Heights retailer's former stock ticker symbol - OMX - and corporate identity have been reinstated....

Correction.(Correction Notice)
November 8, 2004... A Nov. 1, page 3 story on the impact of a downtown improvement project in Chagrin Falls contained a number of inaccuracies. The story incorrectly reported that Main Street would be closed to vehicular traffic, and that vehicles would be forced...

Investor backing near for condo project.(Real Estate)(condominiums)
November 8, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD The long-stalled conversion of the old WKYC-TV office building in downtown Cleveland to condominiums may be gaining traction. Lewis Wallner II, managing partner of the King James Group real estate concern, said...

Expansion calls at InfoCision; Akron telemarketer gears up for addition of 300 to 400 jobs.
November 8, 2004... Byline: SHANNON PETTYPIECE A heated election year and the fallout from the national Do-Not-Call list have translated into additional business and hiring plans for Akron telemarketing company InfoCision Management Corp. InfoCision will...

Free agent advantage; Progressive's ads tout benefits of independent representatives.(News)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Progressive Corp., the nation's third-largest auto insurer, is gunning even harder to take market share from the nation's two biggest insurers by ramping up its sales efforts through independent agents, according to The Wall Street Journal. ...

Going Places.(People)
November 8, 2004... Job Changes Architecture KA ARCHITECTURE: Peter J. Gozar to project architect. Distribution SC FASTENING SYSTEMS: John Denny to general manager. Education JOHN CARROLL UNIVERSITY: Catherine Anson to director of...

The Week in Quotes.(News)
November 8, 2004... "Here in Ohio, workers will outperform anyone if trained properly. A lot of the offshore jobs are coming back because the quality isn't there.'' - Carl Albright, president, InfoCision, in "Expansion calls at InfoCision.'' Page One ...

In rezoning issues, developers defeated when they go it alone.(News)
November 8, 2004... Byline: JAY MILLER Developers who went to voters with rezoning issues that weren't blessed by local officials fared poorly last Tuesday, while projects that enjoyed such support largely found favor with local residents. Ballot-box...

Late News.
November 8, 2004... MILLER: CLEVELAND ONE TOUGH MARKET Sam Miller, Forest City Enterprises Inc. co-chairman, reflected on Northeast Ohio's economic woes last Thursday when he addressed the Home Builders Association of Greater Cleveland's annual forecast...

Records storage firm buys bldg. in Walton Hills.(Real Estate)(Iron Mountain Inc.)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD Driven by a need for more space, Boston-based records storage company Iron Mountain Inc. has acquired a Walton Hills warehouse from a partnership formed by principals of Handl-it Inc., a Bedford Heights provider of...

The Carmon Group seeking to add staff.(News)(The Carmon Group of Independence)(Christopher Carm)(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND Executive search firm The Carmon Group of Independence expects to more than double the size of its staff next year as business in its retained and contingency groups continues to grow. The 17-person firm is...

Return your focus here, Mr. President.(Opinion)(President George W. Bush)
November 8, 2004... Byline: Brian Tucker An open letter to President George W. Bush: Well, it's all over, and the folks here in your favorite battleground state gave you the second term that eluded your father back in `92. Congratulations. Now, get to...

Davaco, NCS hammer out acquisition; Deal could add more than 40 jobs to the Twinsburg construction firm.(News)(National Construction Services LLC and Davaco Inc. merger)(.)
November 8, 2004... Byline: HENRY GOMEZ The president of National Construction Services LLC, a Twinsburg construction firm that focuses on retail projects, said his company's takeover by a Dallas competitor has the potential to create more than 40 local jobs....

Parker invests in new hybrid scooters.(News)(Parker Hannifin Corp. invests in Vectrix Corp.)
November 8, 2004... Byline: DAVID BENNETT While the business of fuel cells is not new to Parker Hannifin Corp., the maker of motion control systems is banking on an investment in a new hybrid scooter to gain a stronger foothold in the high-tech market. ...

Software developer flexed for growth; State loan to allow BrandMuscle to make acquisition, add jobs.
November 8, 2004... Byline: TOM JACKSON BrandMuscle Inc., a Beachwood software developer that helps companies manage national advertising campaigns, plans to acquire another business and to add 91 jobs during the next three years after it receives a $4.5...

Internet telephony industry picking up.(Small Business)
November 8, 2004... Byline: Seth Beverly If you haven't heard of Internet telephony, voice-over Internet protocol, or softphones - get ready, you will soon. If you thought the only thing the Internet had to do with telephones was the old-fashioned (and...

Bankruptcies.(Brief Article)
November 8, 2004... The following businesses recently have filed for protection from creditors in the U.S. Bankruptcy Courts in Akron and Cleveland. Under Chapter 11, a company files a reorganization plan that must be approved by the court. Chapter 7 is a total...

Colleges partner with ABB to create research center.(News)(Cleveland State University)(Case Western Reserve University)
November 8, 2004... Byline: DAVID BENNETT Swiss automation and technologies conglomerate ABB Inc. is launching a corporate research center in Wickliffe this week with the help of Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland State University. The research...

Short Takes.(Briefs)(Organizational Effectiveness Strategies Inc.)(Premier Fitness Studio)
November 8, 2004... * NEW FEATURES: Premier Fitness Studio on Mayfield Road in South Euclid recently added a boutique to the studio. The boutique features items such as a clothing line, candles, soaps, bath salts, facial scrubs and eye pillows. Ten-year-old...

Medical care just around the corner; MetroHealth uses neighborhood centers to bring physicians into the community.(Insight)
November 8, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND On a recent Wednesday morning, the MetroHealth Broadway Health Center was teeming with children and adults waiting to see a doctor or dentist. Though that's now a common scene in the old, working-class...

On the Cover.(News)(Illustration)
November 8, 2004... Key Tower, Ohio's tallest building, is constructed of Stony Creek granite, composite steel and concrete. The top of the building is stainless steel. CAPTION(S): photo

Alzheimer's disease takes toll on business.(Opinion)(Column)
November 15, 2004... Byline: MARY K. SCHWENDEMAN With the death this year of former President Ronald Reagan, we have all been reminded of the terrible toll of Alzheimer's disease. This cruel disease is a progressive brain disorder that gradually destroys a...

Hospitals breed new kind of doc; Growing group of internal medicine physicians focuses on inpatients only.(Insight)
November 15, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND Dr. Michael Beck considers himself a partner with local primary care physicians. As a hospitalist at University Hospitals of Cleveland and Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital, he is part of a growing breed...

Bruner-Cox joint venture designed to fight fraud.(Finance)(Cendrowski Corporate Advisors)
November 15, 2004... Byline: KIMBERLY BONVISSUTO From the firm that literally wrote the book on fraud deterrence comes a new partnership to restore investor confidence and provide internal safeguards against fraud to public and private companies in Ohio. ...

MetroHealth rallying public to fight for funds.(MetroHealth Medical Center)
November 15, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND MetroHealth Medical Center wants the public's help in fighting for what the hospital believes it is entitled to - a bigger portion of the money generated annually from Cuyahoga County's health and human services...

Dental clinic opening to serve poor; Family Care Center location out to help Lorain County market.(Health Care)
November 15, 2004... Byline: SHANNON MORTLAND The Family Care Center of Lorain early next year will open a dental clinic to serve the poor in and around Lorain County. The 2,700-square-foot clinic will be inside the Family Care Center at 1800 Livingston...

Clinic adding $19M central power plant.(Real Estate)(Cleveland Clinic Foundation)(Brief Article)
November 15, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD The Cleveland Clinic Foundation is building a $19 million plant that will serve as the heart of the heating and cooling system for the hospital's planned heart center. Because the heart center, scheduled for...

REPORTERS' NOTEBOOK; BEHIND THE NEWS WITH CRAIN'S WRITERS.(The Insider)(Triumph Publishing Co.)(Cleveland publisher Gray & Co.)
November 15, 2004... Nat City may offer refuge for Cole workers * A door is closing for many of Cole National Corp.'s 800-some local employees, but another could be opening. Cleveland's National City Corp. last week confirmed that it has approached...

Pickets stall work on downtown condo project.(Real Estate)(Ohio and Cleveland Vicinity Regional Council of Carpenters)(Brief Article)
November 15, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD A couple dozen pickets from the Ohio and Cleveland Vicinity Regional Council of Carpenters who were conducting a so-called "public notice action'' shut down construction for three days last week of the Pinnacle...

Psychology group opens 2 new offices.(Health Care)(Psychological and Behavioral Consultants)(Brief Article)
November 15, 2004... Byline: Shannon Mortland Psychological and Behavioral Consultants, a practice group of psychiatrists, psychologists, psychiatric nurses and social workers, this month opened offices in Elyria and Willoughby Hills. The Willoughby Hills...

SHORT TAKES.(Finance)
November 15, 2004... * BUILDING WEB TOOLS: Cleveland-based First American Equity Loan Services Inc. has added to its web site, www.elsonline.net, an Internet-based tool used to approve home equity loans. The new tool, ELSonline Your Equity Loan Accelerator, is...

Public company acquires Xtrasource; Utah-based Sento buys Hudson call center customer support company.(Technology)(Xtrasource Inc., Hudson OH)(Brief Article)
November 15, 2004... Byline: TOM JACKSON A publicly traded customer support company in Utah last week announced it has agreed to acquire the operating assets of Xtrasource Inc. of Hudson, a privately held company that provides contract customer support from...

Leader Bldg. a bargain buy for N.Y. firm.(Real Estate)(New York)(building)
November 15, 2004... Byline: STAN BULLARD Carlyle Development Group, a New York-based real estate investment group, is the new owner of the 15-story Leader Building in downtown Cleveland. Abdi Mahamedi, Carlyle's president, said his investment group feels...

THE WEEK: NOVEMBER 8 - 14.(The Insider)(appointments)
November 15, 2004... Lewis opens his wallet: The fund-raising campaign for the Idea Center at Playhouse Square received a $1 million gift from Progressive Corp. chairman Peter Lewis. The gift is the largest commitment to date from an individual for development of...

Case, Metro, Clinic to share fed grants.(Health Care)(MetroHealth Medical Center)(Cleveland Clinic)(Case Western Reserve University)(Brief Article)
November 15, 2004... Case Western Reserve University, the Cleveland Clinic and MetroHealth Medical Center have received a total of $3 million in research grants from the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. The first $1.5 million grant will be...

Tolerance for opposing views vanishing.(Opinion)(Column)
November 15, 2004... Byline: Brian Tucker Some of us can remember the good, old days when Americans could have spirited, even raucous, disagreements over politics and remain friends. That time is gone, and there is no better evidence than the fallout over...